HEAD OF THE MOSCOW HELSINKI GROUP: THERE ARE MORE DEFEATS THAN VICTORIES

On February 27, the presidential human rights commission will meet to discuss its plans for the year ahead. Liudmila Alexeeva, head of the Moscow Helsinki Group (MHG), comments on those plans.

Question: How has the human rights situation changed recently?

Liudmila Alexeeva: On the whole, it has neither improved nor worsened. Some regions have seen improvement, while in others things have deteriorated. In general, violations of human rights are widespread, with officials facing no punishment for that. Chechnya is the biggest problem. It is hard to say, but I might compare the
situation there to conditions in Nazi-occupied areas of the Soviet Union during World War II. Soldiers, often drunk or on drugs, set about "restoring constitutional order" - and ordinary citizens have no protection against them. They are worse off than they were during the first war in Chechnya.

Question: What are some other primary concerns in terms of human rights abuses?

Liudmila Alexeeva: Beatings and torture at police stations. Two years ago we drafted a law on public oversight of the prison system. It  passed through three readings in the Duma, but the government turned  it down. We are going to propose it once again. In the meantime,  there has been considerable improvement of conditions in preliminary  detention centers. The number of inmates has substantially decreased,  so conditions improved.

Question: How do human rights activists know this? Do you have access to preliminary detention centers?

Liudmila Alexeeva: In some regions we have, in some we do not. But we work fairly closely with the Justice Ministry, which is responsible for the prison system.

Question: It seems to me that human rights activists inform the public about the situation, rather than changing it.

Liudmila Alexeeva: The capabilities of human rights activists are underestimated in Russia. Still, we do help people, and the authorities take us into consideration. Our voice has become louder recently, since the number of independent media outlets has been reduced, while we remain independent.

Question: How many human rights groups are there in Russia?

Liudmila Alexeeva: Our database lists over 2,000, but that is not all, of course. I think there are tens of thousands of people involved nationwide.

Question: What are the sources of funding for human rights activists?

Liudmila Alexeeva: Out of thousands of organizations, only a few hundred have any financial assistance. Most organizations simply do their work. Those who have money receive it from two sources. In the past, money mostly came from western grants: the foundations of Soros, Ford, Bell. We cannot use state funding, because our objective is to protect citizens from the state.

Question: How do you get on with the authorities?

Liudmila Alexeeva: All leading human rights organizations are represented in the presidential human rights commission.

Question: Does the president listen to human rights advocates?

Liudmila Alexeeva: Last December we spoke out on the subject of  Chechen refugee camps in Ingushetia, which had been threatened with  closure by December 20. We stated our opinion to Mr. Voloshin, and  the result is as follows: around 19,000 people currently live in  those camps and no one is going to evict them. If the president had  not given his instruction, the situation would be quite different  now. Recently, at a meeting with regional leaders, the president  advised them to listen to human rights activists.

Question: You have applied so much effort, even established contact with the president; but the situation in Russia, according to you,  remains as it was. Don't you feel somewhat disappointed about your  work?

Liudmila Alexeeva: A job like ours cannot yield results rapidly,  especially in a country with such deeply-rooted problems. We need to  be optimists, for there are more defeats than victories at the moment.

Translated by P. Pikhnovsky and Sergei Kolosov

Izvestia,
February 27, 2003, p. 7 EV ,  


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